Proof

[Marie Mosher]

My line follows "Isabella Muir" who married Hugh Maxwell, I believe both immigrated separately?
They were my Gr-Gr-Gr-Grandparents. An 1871 census has them living in Lingan Mines [this later became Glace Bay?] with four children. Their daughter Jane Maxwell came to the US and married an Edward Pope, of Quincy.

Without any proof that this IS the daughter of Michael Muir and Mary Marshall, I'm just stuck. There is no way to link them with the other Muirs or Maxwells. I have heard rumors that Hugh Maxwell's family may have ties to my Wadden family also. Again, no proof.

I'll wind this up, and say, "H-E-L-P."

Thanks
Marie Mosher
Northeast USA

[tree]

Dear Marie:

I am temporarily at a dead-end on this, too, especially without more definite info on Hugh and/or Isabella. I've tried doing some checking around to see what I could find, but not very sucessful yet. Below is part of what I have on their immediate family. I'd greatly appreciate it if you could fill me in on any additional info.

Sincerely,
Randy

Descendants of Hugh MAXWELL - 19 Jul 2009
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First Generation

1. Hugh MAXWELL1 was born in Scotland.2 B. in Scotland based on 1880 census of daughter, Jane (MAXELL) POPE

Isabella MUIR1 was born in Scotland.2 B. in Scotland based on 1880 census of daughter, Jane (MAXELL) POPE Hugh MAXWELL and Isabella MUIR had the following children:

+2 i. Jane MAXWELL, born about 1854, Nova Scotia, Canada2; married Edward Randall POPE, on 18 Nov 1873, Boston (Suffolk), MA1.



Second Generation

2. Jane MAXWELL (Hugh-1) was born about 1854 in Nova Scotia, Canada.2 She appeared in the census in 1880 in Quincy (Norfolk), MA.2

Jane MAXWELL and Edward Randall POPE were married on 18 Nov 1873 in Boston (Suffolk), MA.1 Edward Randall POPE (son of Micajah POPE and Lucinda RANDALL) was born on 26 Mar 1823 in Quincy (Norfolk), MA.1 He died on 6 Feb 1877.1 Jane MAXWELL and Edward Randall POPE had the following children:

3 i. Edward R. POPE was born about 1874 in North Quincy (Suffolk), MA.2
4 ii. Mary Jane POPE was born about 1876 in North Quincy (Suffolk), MA.2
5 iii. Alice H. POPE was born about 1879 in Nova Scotia, Canada.2

Sources

1. Mormon IR (Individual Record).
2. 1880 Fed. Census.

[Marie Mosher]

Tree

Thanks for all your help, I didn't mean to ignore your efforts, just not sure how to respond. There is no one left in my family to answer questions, and NO papers from previous generations. They existed, had children, but left no concrete proof of their existence. Everything I have is from others efforts, and their digging........that's why I haven't shared my papers. My family files are called "Mosher-Lindvall Generations", reason being that they are all I have 100% assurance that most is truth. All I can pray for is that I leave enough answers that will give the future generations some glimpse into our lives. Not that any are interested, but one can hope, someday, that attitude may change.

Well, thank you, again, hope we can keep in touch......oh, are our Muir lines interconnected at all? That usually happens, my sources end up part of my line! Neat.....take care Randy.

Marie Mosher

[tree]

Dear Marie:

Sorry it's taken me so long to see this note. I do so much appreciate your "thanks." PLEASE do keep me informed on any new leads you may come upon and I'll be happy to look some more.

One thing I do strongly recommend is that you make sure to document every source of info you come upon. Sometimes discrepancies come up and it'll help make it easier to figure out what may be the truth of the matter. This whole "genealogy thing" is so "relative," anyhow. (grin)

As far as our lines possibly being interrelated, I do believe in the Bible and that IF we were able to go back far enough in time that we're all interrelated (and possibly in quite a few points), but ... as far as more "recently," our line did come thru Canada, but they were in the Montreal area from about 1776/1878. Then they were down in Iowa.

Don't give up in your quest. The quitters don't get anywhere. Life's that way in general.

Randy

[Marie Mosher]

Randy

Others brought this info. to me, also, if it's of interest to you. Thank you

Isabella B 27 Mar 1829 Kilmarnock Ayr D/o Michael Muir and Mary Marshall I think at this point that this is our lady as Maxwell's are in our fam at that point in time anyway. Isabella or Isobella Muir marr Hugh Maxwell Oct 24 1848 source is Reel #11700 PANS Churches of Pictou Co (First Presbyterian and St James churches) [from Bessie Flanders]
..............

[Doug Grant]

43 44 Maxwell Hugh M 44 Scotland M CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2
43 44 Maxwell Isabella F 41 Scotland M CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2

43 44 Maxwell Jane F 18 NS CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2
43 44 Maxwell Sarah F 14 NS CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2
43 44 Maxwell Hugh m 8 NS CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2
43 44 Maxwell James M 4 NS CofEngland H2 Lingan Mines 2
................
Doug also found a marriage for 2 of the daughters, then they disappear...

[tree]

Dear Marie:

Below is the info I have on the immediate family of Michael & Mary (MARSHALL) MUIR's immediate family. I didn't know if any of this may spark anything more for you. Again, I'd appreciate any further thoughts on this. With the below info I do have the source info, if you need or want it, but would prefer to send that privately.

Sincerely,
Randy

Family Group Sheet
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Husband: Michael MUIR Sr.
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Birth: 1803 Scotland
Residence: aft 1804 Riccarton (Ayr), Scotland
Immigration: bet 1826-1829 Nova Scotia, Canada
Property: 1 Mar 1858 Muir Homestead; Eureka, Pictou Co., (Nova Scotia), Cana
Census: 1871 Hopewell, Pictou Co. (Nova Scotia), Canada
Death: 15 Apr 1876
Residence: Pictou Co. (Nova Scotia), Canada
Residence: Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Marriage: 27 Jun 1823 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Father: John MUIR (1780- )
Mother: Agnes (1782- )
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Wife: Mary Ann MARSHALL
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Birth: 12 Dec 1802 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Death: 29 Jan 1864
Father: Robert MARSHALL ( - )
Mother: Agnes LOGAN ( - )
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Children
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1 F Agnes MUIR
Birth: 22 Mar 1824 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Death: 1880 Nova Scotia, Canada
Burial: 1890 Springhill (Nova Scotia), Canada
Spouse: James MCPHERSON (1821-1884)
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2 M John MUIR
Birth: 6 Jan 1826 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Spouse: Jane MACPHERSON ( - )
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3 M Robert MUIR
Birth: 11 Jan 1827 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
Property: 27 Feb 1864 Muir Homestead; Eureka, Pictou Co., (Nova Scotia), Cana
Occupation: 1871 Farmer
Census: 1871 Hopewell, Pictou Co. (Nova Scotia), Canada
Death: abt 1912
Misc: Eureka, Pictou Co., (Nova Scotia), Canada
Spouse: Margaret KEITH (1830- )
Marriage: 1852 Eureka, Pictou Co., (Nova Scotia), Canada
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4 F Isabella MUIR
Birth: 27 Mar 1829 Kilmarnock (Ayr), Scotland
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5 M John MUIR
Birth: 9 Nov 1836 Riccarton (Ayr), Scotland
Chr: 24 Nov 1836 Riccarton (Ayr), Scotland
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6 F Anne Lockhart (Annie) MUIR
Birth: 31 Dec 1840 Nova Scotia, Canada
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7 M Michael MUIR
Birth: 30 Oct 1842 Nova Scotia, Canada
Occupation: 1871 Miner
Census: 1871 Middle River, Pictou Co. (Nova Scotia), Canada
Census: 1880 Lucas & Jackson (Lucas), IA
Spouse: Mary A. (1843- )
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8 M Alexander (Sandy) MUIR
Birth: 2 Jan 1845 Nova Scotia, Canada
Occupation: 1881 Miner
Census: 1881 Hopewell, Pictou Co. (Nova Scotia), Canada
Religion: 1881 Kirk of Scotland
Death: 20 Jan 1902 Foxbrook (Nova Scotia), Canada
Spouse: Margaret FRASER (1849-1946)
Marriage: 5 Apr 1866 Albion Mines (Nova Scotia), Canada
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9 F Mary Ann MUIR
Spouse: Hugh FRASER ( - )
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FAMILY NOTES
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Marriage (27 Jun 1823): (1,2)

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HUSBAND NOTES: Michael MUIR Sr.
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Birth (1803): "B: Abt 1804," according to IGI(1,3,4)
Residence (aft 1804): (4)
Immigration (bet 1826 and 1829): "... they came to Nova Scotia with their 1st
born son Robert."(1)
Property (1 Mar 1858): "re"the Muir Homestead" in Eureka about 1990. Shortly
after, photocopies
of deeds for this property made from original archived records for Pictou
County. They include purchase by Donald Barclay April 15, 1820 for 40
pounds, then Robert Oliver April 17, 1853 for 160 pounds, then Michael Muir
Sr. (married to Mary Agnes Marshall) on March 1, 1858 for 220 pounds."

(5)
Census (1871): (3)
Death (15 Apr 1876): (1,6)
Residence: (1)
Residence: (1)

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WIFE NOTES: Mary Ann MARSHALL
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Death (29 Jan 1864): (6)

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CHILD NOTES: Agnes MUIR
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Birth (22 Mar 1824): According to Judy McPherson, her Agnes (MUIR) who m. James
McPHERSON, Agnes was b. about 1825, according to cemetery headstone info.(2,7,8)
Death (1880): (8)
Burial (1890): Hillside Cem.(8)

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CHILD NOTES: John MUIR
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Birth (6 Jan 1826): (2,4)
General: (1)

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CHILD NOTES: Robert MUIR
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Birth (11 Jan 1827): (2-4,9)
Property (27 Feb 1864): "last photocopied page only reveals "Feb 27, 1864 from
Michael Muir Sr.
to…..". However, page 8 of Keith Muir's Memoirs refers to the deed going
to son Robert (married to Margaret Keith) for one dollar. The
property then passed on to Robert's 3rd son Sylvanus Keith Muir (married to
Jeanetta Barclay).when I learned of this homestead Elsie Muir an unmarried
nurse who had lived in the USA for many years but retired back to the
homestead She died Dec 31 1999 Her sister Della cameron built a small
bungalow on the right side of the lane leadbing up to the farm
house. After Elsie died I believe her neice rented the house.Della lives
at the Seniors apartments in Riverton as of this writing in 2008."

This farm owned by the late S. K. Muir was originally owned by Donald
Barclay. It formed part of the property known at one time as the "Barclay
Hill". Robert Muir, who mined in the old Foord Pit and after whom some of
the galleys were named, purchased from Barclay shortly after the explosion
at the pit and moved on it with his family


(5)
Occupation (1871): (3)
Census (1871): (3)
Death (abt 1912): "... unexpected death a year ago after a brief period of
suffering from blood
poisoning brought on by a small cut on the hand."

(5)
Misc: "He married Margaret, daughter of Sylvanus Keith, Stellarton, and he died
eight years ago aged 85 years. S. K. Muir to whom Robert deeded the
property some years prior to his death was a very hard worker. Not only did
he keep the farm in a good state of cultivation, but he also conducted a
large coal business, supplying the major part of Eureka and Hopewell with
that household necessity."

(5)
General: (1)

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CHILD NOTES: Isabella MUIR
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Birth (27 Mar 1829): (2,4)

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CHILD NOTES: John MUIR
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Birth (9 Nov 1836): (1,4)
Chr (24 Nov 1836): (4)

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CHILD NOTES: Anne Lockhart (Annie) MUIR
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Birth (31 Dec 1840): (1)
General: (1)

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CHILD NOTES: Michael MUIR
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Birth (30 Oct 1842): (1,3)
Occupation (1871): (3)
Census (1871): (3)
Census (1880): (10)
General: (1)

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CHILD NOTES: Alexander (Sandy) MUIR
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Birth (2 Jan 1845): (1)
Occupation (1881): (11)
Census (1881): (11)
Religion (1881): (11)
Death (20 Jan 1902): (12)
General: Parents were John MUIR and Agnes HODGE, according to another Mormon IR,
which IMHO refers to another Alexander MUIR b. in Ontario about 1845. Randy(1,12-14)